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« Reply #60 on Dec 12, 2011, 12:43am » | ![[Quote]](http://images.proboards.com/buttons/quote.gif "[Quote]") |
Yes , never cancer or they removed all they cancer by needle or her body kicked it out between that time.
Alginate had various recipes,
will find something on it for you.
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« Reply #61 on Dec 12, 2011, 12:48am » | |
here is one type but there are many, can also be a mix of bacteria, fungi, algae
http://www.fmcbiopolymer.com/othermarkets/OtherMarkets/Products/Alginate.aspx
but U. of M. found the right Alginate mix that made the artificial polymers ( PEDOT... I think ) for the artificial nervous system used in the Human Brain Machine Patent
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« Reply #62 on Dec 12, 2011, 12:48am » | |
Dec 12, 2011, 12:34am, lilsissy wrote:This was a very good thread
http://lymebusters.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=rash&action=print&thread=7183
has the links to endo mites....pictures
This made me remember something , my allergist told me that when she sees allergies all across the board like I have , it is often from mites.
Jen
http://birdmites.org/mites.html
cut,
Avian mites have demonstrated a highly flexible DNA, which allows them to quickly adapt to unfavorable conditions with each new generation.
There are documented cases of certain insecticides no longer being effective in eradicating them as they once did
. Research has shown that some bird mites have the ability to revert to an earlier stage to avoid being rejected by the host's immune system. A recent Michigan State University 'Pest Management Manual' states that several specifies of mite 'ectoparasites' are shown to have evolved into 'endoparasites' in the host mammals...making detection and eradication even more difficult. |
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Jen,
I'm pretty sure that my lesions began on my arms with scabies or mites from that cute little dog that sat on top of the sofa with his head planted on my shoulder. He also gave me a gift of the freaking ticks that gave me Lyme (twice), but I don't hold it against him. I love him, the little sad baby doggie. I'm the only one who ever walked him and he knows I know he not only has scabies and mites, but Lyme as well. He'll probably die soon. Not my dog, and if he were, he would not be dying. Ok, I won't cry.
So, their back yard is a haven for all of the above diseases and the dogs are the carriers, at least for me. Lots of inter breeding in that backyard, sadly.
So, I have concluded that we are nothing but hosts for the purpose of furthering those organisms in their quest to continue their shittly little existences, while we have to put our advanced life in the toilet because of it.
And they say modern science is superior.
HAH!
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« Reply #63 on Dec 12, 2011, 12:52am » | |
Dec 12, 2011, 12:43am, lilsissy wrote:
Yes , never cancer or they removed all they cancer by needle or her body kicked it out between that time.
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I seriously doubt that is possible. I say you should sue them. They jumped the gun. I hope I'm not upsetting you.
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« Reply #64 on Dec 12, 2011, 12:59am » | |
Images for comparison. We have seen the Morgie samples over and over.
But, here lets look at the strains:
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1. Borrelia Burgdorferi.... The one that actually causes Real Lymes Disease.
http://wapedia.mobi/thumb/82ed508/en/fix.....jpg?format=jpg
http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/index.php/File:Borrelia_mass.jpg
Borrelia phages suppose to eat the bacteria
http://microbewiki.kenyon.edu/images/c/c2/Borrelia_phage.gif
OspA burgdorferi-like organism:
Figure 2.
Borrelia burgdorferi-like spirochetes detected within the adult Ixodes granulatus ticks as shown by light and immunofluorescent microscopy. A, Clusters of B. burgdorferi-like spirochetes stained with Wolbach variant stain and B, spirochetes reacted with undiluted monoclonal antibodies (MAbs) against B. burgdorferi OspA were observed in gut smears of I. granulatus ticks from Taiwan. This figure appears in color at www.ajtmh.org.
2. Borrelia andersonii:
WHEN WE WENT DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE< IS THIS WHAT WAS WAITING?
Still looking for images but here are the strains. This has been around for awhile
in North America.
"Borrelia andersonii strains (Was Group 21123 - also known as Group 21038)
Isolate Country Source Provided by
19857 * USA New York Cottontail rabbit Y. Lobet
19865 * USA Connecticut Cottontail rabbit C. Kodner
19952 * USA New York I. dentatus J. F. Anderson
21038
21123 * USA New York I. dentatus J. F. Anderson
21133 * USA New York I. dentatus J. F. Anderson
last two.......? http://www.pasteur.fr/recherche/borrelia/Borrelia_andersonii.html
3. Borrelia . miyamotoi
4. Borrelia Bisettii
5. Borrelia Garinii and Afzelii
http://raksti.daba.lv/referaati/2006/everdins/bb_pat_sug/Borrelia_b_1.jpg
http://raksti.daba.lv/referaati/2006/eve....b_3_afzelii.jpg
6. Borrelia Ansinera
"Spirochetemia of B. anserina with a very high cell density in the blood of a 12-day-old chicken 6 days after i.p. inoculation. The spirochetes far outnumber the nucleated red blood cells."
http://jb.asm.org/content/185/4/1346/F1.expansion.html
7. Borrelia Hermsii;
Immunogold labeling for GlpQ and Vsp33 in B. hermsii. (A) Negative stain with no GlpQ detected on the outer surface with anti-GlpQ antibody and secondary antibody conjugated to gold particles. (B) Negative stain with Vsp33 detected on the outer surface with anti-Vsp33 antibody. (C) No GlpQ detected in thin sections with the outer membrane intact. (D) GlpQ detected in thin sections when the membranes were disrupted from the protoplasmic cylinder. Scale bars, 0.25 μm.
http://jb.asm.org/content/185/4/1346/F6.expansion.html
8. Borrelia Hispanica: This forms ROSETTES around blood cells. (erythrocytes)
Neutrophil rosettes formed with B. hispanica. Neutrophils (A) or neutrophils and erythrocytes (B) from human blood form rosettes in the presence of Borrelia. Log-phase B. hispanica CR1 was resuspended in fresh BSK and mixed with neutrophils on a glass slide. Light micrographs at ×10–12 are shown. White arrowhead indicates a neutrophil; black arrow indicates an erythrocyte.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/core/lw/2.0/....01770004.jpg%20[Object%20name%20is%20zpq9990901770004.jpg]&p=PMC3&id=2780762_zpq9990901770004.jpg
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Sounds like this is what these spirochete-like things do..............
Microscopic detection of spirochetes in the blood of mice and chickens.Few if any attempts have been made to visualize spirochetes in the blood other than for species that cause relapsing fever. Therefore, mice were inoculated with cultures of B. burgdorferi or B. miyamotoi and blood from their tail vein was examined for 10 days for the presence of spirochetes. Neither of two mice inoculated with B. burgdorferi had detectable spirochetes, although infection was confirmed by transmission to I. scapularis larvae (xenodiagnosis) and isolation of spirochetes from the urinary bladder. Both mice inoculated with B. miyamotoi had detectable spirochetemias that peaked 6 days postinoculation, with 1.6 × 106 and 7.8 × 106 spirochetes per ml of blood. Three chickens injected with B. anserina were spirochetemic on days 1 through 6 postinoculation, with the densities on the last day becoming too high to count accurately (Fig. 1). The ability of B. miyamotoi and B. anserina to achieve densities in the blood that are detectable by microscopy, and the ability of these organisms to hydrolyze deacylated phospholipids support our hypothesis that these phenomena may be related.
http://jb.asm.org/content/185/4/1346.full
Have this so far, and a link to this group which would be great to work with.
They found a patent for the borrelia like organism:
Publication number: US 2010/0317026 A1
http://campother.blogspot.com/2011/02/patent-watch-vmp-like-sequences-of.html
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« Reply #65 on Dec 12, 2011, 1:06am » | |
Dec 12, 2011, 12:52am, kritters wrote:
Dec 12, 2011, 12:43am, lilsissy wrote:
Yes , never cancer or they removed all they cancer by needle or her body kicked it out between that time.
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I seriously doubt that is possible. I say you should sue them. They jumped the gun. I hope I'm not upsetting you.
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not at all kritts,
Karen has something that mimicked Cancer I think, she was positive for Lyme , her ovaries where removed but they must not have taken out all the cells ther because they regrew, that was how I came onto the human polymer gene Parp1 involvement with my sister ...anyway.
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« Reply #66 on Dec 12, 2011, 1:11am » | |
Jen,
I'm so so sorry that Karen and you were failed by mainstream medicine. I know from what I have read that Karen has written that she would be so proud of you for all you are uncovering.
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« Reply #67 on Dec 12, 2011, 1:36am » | |
Dec 11, 2011, 9:24pm, skyship wrote:So, the two you found in Burgdorfi : were:
Borrelia miyamotoi spirochetes
Borelia burdorfi
So, lets see what those look like. And then I can give you the link with the chart......
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Here are many papers, I never saw before so go for it.... Want me to do a rough draft for ya?
And then you fill in the rest? you found? We can do right here on board or we can make it
one big MRG paper................. But, this is prelim to what they have done.
I see your reasoning now, Kritters, the bio products are the Morgellons in so many different forms.
That would explain the diversity, or different forms we have.
The next step was to alter the cell...... And yes, the vaccine for kids........ The surface coat
protein is from the spirochete itself, so if you don't have lymes, you will when you take the
vaccine.
Field study: The entire human population.
I will put that paper I found with all the info and the states involved. After Lida Mattman was kicked
out of Michigan, we no longer were tested properly for Lymes. This is why I have a peed off issue
with what was done in this state concerning Lymes. And I showed up with dimers, which meant
this are what make the oligomer strands that are in Alzheimers. So the connection to Alz, Lymes
and Morgellons is there. Right? I will get you those charts. that explain all the spirochetes.
You can see them, it is from a pathologist who used to work at hospitals, and kept the images,
because he never saw them before. ......way back in 80s.
I think I might start posting some of those images......on MRG........They are very revealing.......
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Geez Louize.....
I am missing so many of your posts, Sky!!!! We've been typing the same time! Charts are great, thanks. I'm compiling maps now, also.
off to bed. Nighty night! xoK
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« Reply #68 on Dec 12, 2011, 8:53am » | |
Types of Ticks
There are two families of ticks: soft ticks, which have 160 species, and hard ticks, which include 650 species. Ticks are believed to have evolved from mites about 200 million years ago. The four species of ticks that are the most well known are the American dog tick, found in the eastern US and California; the Lone Star tick, in southern states east of Texas; the black-legged tick in the Midwestern and eastern states; and the brown dog tick, found worldwide.
Really? Lone Star tick in so. states east of Texas? Well one took a flight over to New Jersey then. Or maybe just hopped a chemtrail.
Considerations
Although many mites are harmless, some species of concern are spider mites, clover mites and red mites. Many tick mites transmit serious diseases to humans.
Misconceptions
Although tick mites generally have a negative reputation and are blamed for itches and bites found on humans, many times they are not the true culprits. People who work in office buildings develop these symptoms because insulation, paper shreds or other materials are being delivered through the building's ventilation system.
Well, now how unusual is that to put in a definition? So just what do they think is ON those paper shreds and other materials, hmmm?Paper doesn't make you sick. Doh.
Read more: What Is a Tick Mite? | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_6582378_tick-mite_.html#ixzz1gKOEZ1gU
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« Reply #70 on Dec 12, 2011, 1:50pm » | |
Lil sis wrote:
"..had a statement that was removerd something akin to,
they mixed lyme with animal babesia and released it to the general public under the Ford Administration..."
Which is probably why the the Lyme tests are not always accurate. They are testing for B.Burgdorferi and it's now a recombinant mixture.
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« Reply #72 on Dec 13, 2011, 5:06am » | |
Typing of Borrelia Relapsing Fever Group Strains
Jonas Bunikis*Comments to Author , Jean Tsao†‡1, Ulf Garpmo§1, Johan Berglund§, Durland Fish†, and Alan G. Barbour*
Author affiliations: *University of California—Irvine, Irvine, California, USA; †Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut, USA; ‡Michigan State University, East Lansing, Michigan, USA; §Kalmar County Hospital, Kalmar, Sweden; 1These two authors contributed equally to the study.
Main Article
Figure
Unrooted maximum-likelihood phylogram for 16S-23S ribosomal RNA gene intergenic spacer sequences of Borrelia miyamotoi s.l., B. lonestari, B. hermsii, and B. turicatae. Maximum likelihood settings for version 4.10b of PAUP* (http://paup.csit.fsu.edu) for equally weighted characters corresponded to Hasegawa-Kishino-Yano model with transition/transversion ratio, nucleotide frequencies, proportion of invariable sites, and gamma distribution shape parameter estimated by maximum likelihood. Support f
Figure. Unrooted maximum-likelihood phylogram for 16S-23S ribosomal RNA gene intergenic spacer sequences of Borrelia miyamotoi s.l., B. lonestari, B. hermsii, and B. turicatae. Maximum likelihood settings for version 4.10b of PAUP* (http://paup.csit.fsu.edu) for equally weighted characters corresponded to Hasegawa-Kishino-Yano model with transition/transversion ratio, nucleotide frequencies, proportion of invariable sites, and gamma distribution shape parameter estimated by maximum likelihood. Support for clades was evaluated by 100 bootstrap replications using full-heuristic search, and values >50% are indicated along branches. Solid and dashed scale bars indicate the number of substitutions per site for the corresponding branches. The geographic origins of the isolates are indicated. The GenBank accession numbers for IGS 16-S rRNA gene intergenic spacer genotype sequences are as follows: B. miyamotoi s.l. type 1 (AY363703), type 2 (AY363704), type 3 (AY363705), and type 4 (AY363706); B. lonestari type 1 (AY363707), type 2 (AY363708), and type 3 (AY363709); B. hermsii type 1 (AY515265), type 2 (AY515266), type 3 (AY515267), and type 4 (AY515269); B. turicatae type 1 (AY526494) and type 2 (AY526495). WA, Washington State; CA, California; NM, New Mexico; CO, Colorado; KS, Kansas; TX, Texas; IL, Illinois; MO, Missouri; NJ, New Jersey.
This is what the CDC had................there was an image as well. showed where the
strains were.
http://tinyurl.com/d2tjnl5
the cdc link down but image had how this was tracked.
Cant get the image now...........
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« Reply #73 on Dec 13, 2011, 8:33am » | |
Dec 13, 2011, 2:35am, skyship wrote:
Sky, I just followed that back again to Lilsiss' posts back and forth with J.Jill and the final link she placed to Wikipedia. (and yours) and interestingly there doesn't seem to be mention of the Lyme/babesia thing and the information was modified on the 10th of December. hmmmm.
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« Reply #74 on Dec 13, 2011, 8:47am » | |
"..Author affiliations: *University of California—Irvine, Irvine, California, USA; †Yale University School of Medicine, New Haven, Connecticut, USA; ‡Michigan State University, East Lansing, Michigan, USA; §Kalmar County Hospital, Kalmar, Sweden; 1These two authors contributed equally to the study..."
California...Connecticut (Yale)...Michigan....
I wonder what would happen if those test tube organisms were flushed down the drain. They're finding medications in the water supplies, why not these bacteria?
And for some reason, maps I saved in google chrome comes out a bunch of stripes. grrrr. What I wanted to post was a map of states with the most water usage. Realizing of course that the large the state, the more water is used, but California, Texas and Florida were the largest in all ways. Don't know where I'm really going with this, but I'm seeing water distribution of Lyme, whether in low land levels or otherwise. Coming also from the chemtrails. How easy would it be to release nymph stages of the ticks or mites to land on the ground. It'll come to me.
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« Reply #75 on Dec 13, 2011, 8:54am » | |
Dec 12, 2011, 12:34am, lilsissy wrote:
. Research has shown that some bird mites have the ability to revert to an earlier stage to avoid being rejected by the host's immune system. A recent Michigan State University 'Pest Management Manual' states that several specifies of mite 'ectoparasites' are shown to have evolved into 'endoparasites' in the host mammals...making detection and eradication even more difficult. |
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Lilsis,
These mites that I'm sure the dogs have in their skin are probably now carrying the same strains of Lyme that the ticks do. And these suckers are invisible to the naked eye while they live in us and keep pumping the disease. The gift that never stops giving.
Home, home with the mange,
Where the deer and the little dogs are prey,
And seldom is heard, an encouraging word,
Cause the sky is filled with chemtrails all day.
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« Reply #77 on Dec 13, 2011, 6:20pm » | |
Dec 11, 2011, 9:24pm, skyship wrote:So, the two you found in Burgdorfi : were:
Borrelia miyamotoi spirochetes
Borelia burdorfi
So, lets see what those look like. And then I can give you the link with the chart......
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Here are many papers, I never saw before so go for it.... Want me to do a rough draft for ya?
And then you fill in the rest? you found? We can do right here on board or we can make it
one big MRG paper................. But, this is prelim to what they have done.
I see your reasoning now, Kritters, the bio products are the Morgellons in so many different forms.
That would explain the diversity, or different forms we have.
The next step was to alter the cell...... And yes, the vaccine for kids........ The surface coat
protein is from the spirochete itself, so if you don't have lymes, you will when you take the
vaccine.
Field study: The entire human population.
I will put that paper I found with all the info and the states involved. After Lida Mattman was kicked
out of Michigan, we no longer were tested properly for Lymes. This is why I have a peed off issue
with what was done in this state concerning Lymes. And I showed up with dimers, which meant
this are what make the oligomer strands that are in Alzheimers. So the connection to Alz, Lymes
and Morgellons is there. Right? I will get you those charts. that explain all the spirochetes.
You can see them, it is from a pathologist who used to work at hospitals, and kept the images,
because he never saw them before. ......way back in 80s.
I think I might start posting some of those images......on MRG........They are very revealing.......
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Yes, Sky, you can send me the outline. Any help as well as direction would be appreciated. Give me the lead and I'll go with it. Love to see the chart.
Kritts
(I don't know how I missed these few posts)
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« Reply #78 on Dec 13, 2011, 6:42pm » | |
Here's a question: Would the tests given by Elisa and Western Blot for B.Burgdorferi show B. Miyaotoi when the tests are done? Isn't it possible that they've been testing for the wrong thing all along?
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« Reply #79 on Dec 13, 2011, 6:44pm » | |
Dec 11, 2011, 9:24pm, skyship wrote:
I see your reasoning now, Kritters, the bio products are the Morgellons in so many different forms.
That would explain the diversity, or different forms we have.
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« Reply #80 on Dec 13, 2011, 6:56pm » | |
Dec 11, 2011, 9:25pm, skyship wrote:
Ticks responsible for transmitting Lyme disease may carry another organism that causes persistent infection in laboratory mice and prolonged, relapsing illness in humans. A study to be released in October 2011, Humans infected with relapsing fever spirochete Borrelia miyamotoi, Russia, by Platonov AE, Karan LS, Kolyasnikova NM, Makhneva NA, Toporkova MG, Maleev VV, et al. states the infection may have negative health consequences, including a relapsing disease that may last for months. There are no tests to detect the infection, and a curative treatment protocol, if one exists, has yet to be established.
[color=Red][b]In 1995 Japanese scientists proposed the name Borrelia miyamotoi for their newly discovered spirochete, strain HT31, and within a year constructed maps of the chromosome.
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I'm sorry to keep being redundantly posting things that keep hitting me, but I'm just so flabberghasted that this is just coming to the surface now, after all these freaking years of people being misdiagnosed for Lyme when it's not the B. Borgderfori AFTER ALL!!!
They weren't even LOOKING for the B. Miyamotoi!!!! How convenient!!!
Doesn't this just INCENSE you???? MY GOD!! So many people with BORRELIOSIS and nobody is curing it!!! "well, Lyme doesn't show up in your tests, so go home and kill yourself to put yourself out of your misery!!! AND US!!! Cuz we doctors are CLUELESS!"
Who ever heard of B. Miyamotoi  ?? Is this called, maybe, MASKING THE TRUE PATHOGEN???
Okay, so now I understand why the Japanese name. Because, hello? It was first discovered by the Japanese dude. So why is Russia and the US getting the 'credit' for it now? All they had to do was ask the US what new and improved lethal pathogen they released onto its citizens lately and I'm sure they would gladly hand over the info!!!!
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« Reply #81 on Dec 13, 2011, 7:03pm » | |
So, the next thing I want to know is how the fungus fits in. Low level land, water, sewers, pipes is a major avenue for contamination. Something is carrying it to all destinations. How was the fungus fit into the genome of this evil entity? As a transport agent? California, Texas and Florida are all low level lands on the coasts. This is the 21st century people. Things get around.
Look at the map now. The world map of lyme contamination.
Someone please tell me exactly how to post my pictures??? Do I have to download them to photobucket first? Then what do I use, the url, or one of the other choices?
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« Reply #82 on Dec 13, 2011, 7:05pm » | |
So, basically my poll is moot because B. Burgdorferi is NOT what we're looking for, so if you were tested for it, forgettaboutit!!!
I'm going to have to adjust the initial post.
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« Reply #83 on Dec 13, 2011, 7:12pm » | |
http://www.amazon.com/Biohazard-Chilling....d/dp/0375502319
this sure looks like a book I want to ask Santa for
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For fifty years, while the world stood in terror of a nuclear war, Russian scientists hidden in heavily guarded secret cities refined and stockpiled a new kind of weapon of mass destruction--an invisible weapon that would strike in silence and could not be traced. It would leave hundreds of thousands dead in its wake and would continue to spread devastation long after its release. The scientists were bioweaponeers, working to perfect the tools of a biological Armageddon. They called it their Manhattan Project. It was the deadliest and darkest secret of the cold war.
What you are about to read has never before been made public. Ken Alibek began his career as a doctor wanting to save lives and ended up running the Soviet biological weapons program--a secret military empire masquerading as a pharmaceutical company. At its peak, the program employed sixty thousand people at over one hundred facilities. Seven reserve mobilization plants were on permanent standby, ready to produce hundreds of tons of plague, anthrax, smallpox, and Venezuelan equine encephalitis, to name only a few of the toxic agents bred in Soviet labs. Almost every government ministry was implicated, including the Academy of Sciences and the KGB.
Biohazard is a terrifying, fast-paced account of tests and leaks, accidents and disasters in the labs, KGB threats and assassinations. The book is full of revelations--evidence of biowarfare programs in Cuba and India, actual deployments at Stalingrad and in Afghanistan, experiments with mood-altering agents, a contingency plan to attack major American cities, and the true story behind the mysterious anthrax outbreak in Sverdlovsk. But beyond these is a twisted world of lies and mirrors, and the riveting parable of the greatest perversion of science in history.
No one knows the actual capabilities of biological weapons better than Dr. Alibek. Many of the scientists who worked with him have been lured away from low-paying Russian labs to rogue regimes and terrorist groups around the world. In our lifetime, we will most likely see a terrorist attack using biological weapons on an American city. Biohazard tells us--in chilling detail--what to expect and what we can do. Not since Arthur Koestler's Darkness at Noon has there been such a book--a report from inside the belly of the beast.
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« Reply #85 on Dec 13, 2011, 8:00pm » | |
Dec 11, 2011, 7:49pm, kritters wrote:http://insciences.org/article.php?article_id=7628
On the Trail of a Vaccine for Lyme Disease: Yale Researchers Target Tick Saliva
I'm sorry....did I hear....YALE researchers???
Awwww how altruistic!!! But wait! There's MORE!!!
for a new VACCINE.
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Going back over all these posts not to miss anything, I have a few questions about this find I had.
New Haven, Conn. — A protein found in the saliva of ticks helps protect mice from developing Lyme disease, Yale researchers have discovered.
Here're a few questions:
Why are MICE protected by the protein in tick saliva? Okay I realize that they are disgusting soil dwellers with their nasty little snouts getting into mold and all, so they have evolved the ability to fight off THINGS. But why LYME??? What else? Is there a common denominator connecting to why the mouse is protected? Why aren't they looking for that? Okay, I'll go with the saliva.
So there ya go. Before the tick actually penetrates you, lean down and ask it if he wants to swap spit with you first. Or better yet, let's get down and personal with mice!!!
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« Reply #86 on Dec 13, 2011, 8:08pm » | |
Dec 11, 2011, 9:25pm, skyship wrote:HEre is the info about the states:
More info here to help sort it out.....
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It Looks Like Lyme, Acts Like Lyme, But It’s Not Lyme
Ticks responsible for transmitting Lyme disease may carry another organism that causes persistent infection in laboratory mice and prolonged, relapsing illness in humans. A study to be released in October 2011, Humans infected with relapsing fever spirochete Borrelia miyamotoi, Russia, by Platonov AE, Karan LS, Kolyasnikova NM, Makhneva NA, Toporkova MG, Maleev VV, et al. states the infection may have negative health consequences, including a relapsing disease that may last for months. There are no tests to detect the infection, and a curative treatment protocol, if one exists, has yet to be established.
In 1995 Japanese scientists proposed the name Borrelia miyamotoi for their newly discovered spirochete, strain HT31, and within a year constructed maps of the chromosome. Since that time evidence of the organism has been detected in humans, ticks, birds and wildlife in Russia, Sweden, Germany, Czechia, Poland, Canada, and in several US states (MI, NY, RI, NJ, CT, CA). Human disease caused by B. miyamotoi has recently been studied in Russia and may, according to two Yale University researchers, explain the prolonged episodes of illness designated as "chronic Lyme disease".
A Growing Concern
The Center for Wildlife at the University of Tennessee reported last year that 58% of the wild turkeys harvested by hunters from seven of its counties tested positive for exposure to the Borrelia miyamotoi spirochete during the 2009 spring and fall seasons. Additionally, 70% of turkeys studied were “infested” with juvenile Lone-star ticks (Amblyomma americanum), one of the species known to carry the bacteria that causes relapsing illness.
Experts from Fisheries and Wildlife at the University of Michigan reported at the conclusion of their five-year study (2010) that transmission of Lyme and other diseases by several tick species is occurring, and B. miyamotoi has been detected in ticks and wildlife in Michigan.
German scientists warn that unlike the Lyme disease spirochete, B. miyamotoi appears to be readily passed between generations of ticks. Researchers in CT studying the 4-Poster Deer device, licensedand promoted by the American Lyme Disease Foundation (ALDF), determined the deer bait station was not associated with changes in the prevalence of infection with microorganisms among nymphal or adult ticks, including B. miyamotoi.
According to the ALDF, one published study estimated that Lyme disease alone may cost society over two billion dollars a year, which raises concerns about the additional burden of more tick borne diseases for which there are no reliable tests and no known successful treatment protocols, including any of the 300+ known strains of Borrelia that may or may not cause human or animal disease.
The Solution?
A Yale University entomologist and epidemiologist were recently awarded a $300,000 NIH grant to investigate the relationship between B. miyamotoi and other Borrelia species in order to develop improved diagnostic methods and to compare the frequency and clinical symptoms of B. miyamotoi infection with those of Lyme disease. The grant recipients, once strong promoters of the no such thing as “chronic Lyme disease” theory, report B. miyamotoi “causes persistent illness with relapsing fever symptoms”; therefore, they feel information is urgently needed because it is possible that “some prolonged episodes of illness attributed to Lyme disease and designated as "chronic Lyme disease" are due to B. miyamotoi infection.”
Symptoms and Treatment
The new study by Platonov, et al. of patients with various tick borne infections included 17% who were infected with B. miyamotoi. They reported the relapsing disease is characterized by an influenza-like illness, headache, chills, fatigue, vomiting, myalgias, neck stiffness, and a high fever that is relatively short in duration. Study patients relapsed without treatment. Only 9% of the B. miyamotoi cases studied reported a rash. Acute B. miyamotoi infection can present more severely than the early stagesof Lyme disease and it was clear that people can be infected with more than one disease after exposure to ticks.
The time from tick bite to the onset of symptoms was longer, the time from symptom onset to hospital admission was shorter, and the hospital stay was notably longer for B. miyamotoi patients. The number of symptoms reported was greater for patients with B. miyamotoi infection, and a Jarisch-Herxheimer reaction was noted in 15% of the patients. When admitted to the hospital, the majority of patients were reported to have negative serology; however, some later converted to seropositive, and as with Lyme disease, some did not seroconvert.
The study’s treatment protocol consisted of a trial of either 2 weeks of IV ceftriaxone (42 patients), or 2 weeks of oral Doxycycline (2 patients). There is no test to determine a cure. The time between relapses in B. miyamotoi infected patients averaged 9 days (range 2 days to 2 weeks), however, researchers felt early treatment may have prevented subsequent relapses for the majority of patients.
Researchers noted B. miyamotoi infection may cause substantial health problems given its relatively high incidence and its associated severity. Relapsing febrile episodes were only reported for B. miyamotoi patients as compared to patients with other tick borne illnesses. Such multiple disease episodes not only have an adverse effect on a patient’s health, but also may result in costly medical bills, many days or weeks of lost wages, and a medical misdiagnosis. Co-infection of B. miyamotoiwith other ixodid tick–transmitted agents may increase disease severity.
Additional problems that might occur with B. miyamotoi infection are ocular, neurologic, respiratory, cardiac, and pregnancy complications associated with relapsing fever, similar to what is found in Lyme disease patients.
Concern was expressed by study authors that patients may remain undiagnosed because of the nonspecific nature of the illness, which might be confused with viral infections or such tick-borne infections as Lyme disease, babesiosis, anaplasmosis, or ehrlichiosis- and because of the lack of laboratory tests for confirmatory diagnosis.
Additional Reading
Borrelia miyamotoi
1995 Japan
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7547303
1996 Hiroshima Japan
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8877131
1996 Japan
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8764474
Russian ticks
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20795483
Russia testing
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20734723
Russia Rash
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21381356
Russian ticks
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19198169
Germany
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21923267
Germany
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17326945
Canada
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21421790
Czechia
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18062179
Sweden ticks
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20844223
Sweden
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12202571
Poland
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20007765
Poland
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18075156
Michigan
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20229127
California
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16506458
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15498172
New Jersey
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16465748
Tennessee
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21175079
Connecticut
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12653133
Massachusetts
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11158095
this is the treatment they gave me when I broke out with the
extreme herx, sunburn like face and neck, larvae migrans type
stuff with Lymes, and the burning peeling.......... It was awful.
It lasted from July through October, 4 months. and that is same
it takes for lesion to become calcified.
However what did Bugdorfi know? .......
Will check out that end, my friend. I am hopping here, girl.
I can see the puzzle and it is an ugly picture. Dang it.
Both Russia and America created this thing........Sorry to say....
These are used in the jnk DNA and as body as a secondary
dna system in the body, it operates by signals. Woodpecker
comes to mind, if you who know about Haarp? Ring and
buzzing?
So the first stage........ is the Lyme like bugger?
Will get images as soon as can and that study if we can.
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Yeah, both Russia and Us. Why aren't they giving credit to the Japanese? How sweet, we created it, so we want the damn credit for making people sick. Won't Daddy be proud.
Now I'm worried about all the other Borrelias you listed. Might be worth looking into, but the date of B. Miyamotoi fits in so well. I think.
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« Reply #87 on Dec 13, 2011, 8:41pm » | |
Dec 12, 2011, 12:09am, lilsissy wrote:
Dec 11, 2011, 8:03pm, kritters wrote:So, please someone put this together for me? I'm feeling something sinister on top of what already is sinister.
Now there are TWO yes TWO Borrelia in the same tick, one of which we never even HEARD of until very recently. And, correct me if I'm wrong here: One spirochete doesn't survive the bloodfest while the other does.
So, if the B.burgdorferi spirochete doesn't survive, then how the hell does it transmit the disease to humans?????
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O.K. kritts
you just touched on what I just saw in large
U. of M. always find the most amazing discoveries
cellwalless fungi never before seen
also endo species that where once ecto
hmmm
then they are the ones credited for finding the alginate that allowed conductive polymers to bouquet out in the vascular bed
Alginate is a recipe having various ingredients
a mix of whatever you want to concoct
so did they find this or make this..not so sure anymore.
Karen went there
they told her her thyroid was cancerous , results obtained by needle biopsy then the thyroid was removed there, surgically and the Doctor took forever to tell her the path report on the thyroid was not, I repeat not Cancer.
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Alginate.
http://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/alginate
What if alginate hooked up with borellia? what if it was used to glue it all together? Just thinking out loud. Please don't mind me.
could the nih.gov reports be our unwitting friend? LOL
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC106636/
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« Reply #89 on Dec 13, 2011, 8:50pm » | |
Dec 12, 2011, 12:59am, skyship wrote:
How can they patent an organism from nature..... UNLESS it was genetically changed????
Again, how stupid do they think we are? Hey, I just captured a k-ockroach and I want to patent it. I guess I'm seriously missing something.
Hey, who ARE those guys over at camp other? I'm LIKING THEM!!!
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