This poll is now moot, as far as I'm concerned, so, don't bother taking it.
Reason being, both Lyme and Morgellons are recombinant, bio-engineered organism created diseases, for which ordinary testing will be able to give any credible results.
Those of you who have been tested and had been told you were negative is not neccessarily the fact.
Mycoplasma testing is probably the best bet. But that you may have Mycoplasma and not Lyme, since it is involved in most auto-immune diseases.
Plus, ticks are no longer the lone vectors of infection. When the mosquito, gnat, fly, mite carry the different strains, we might as well forgetaboudit when it comes to testing.
Thanks,
Kritts
Posted by kammy on Dec 4, 2011, 11:34am
When tested in the US, the basic ELIZA says 'negative'. On the testing here, the results also say 'negative' - however, the doctor that specializes says from my CD57 numbers, this is really a positive.
I haven't been bitten by a tick as an adult that I know of - maybe, when I was a child?
Posted by rafael25 on Dec 4, 2011, 1:42pm
Are you saying that the tick remains as the only vector for Lyme disease? Hmmm interesting. Peace.
When tested in the US, the basic ELIZA says 'negative'. On the testing here, the results also say 'negative' - however, the doctor that specializes says from my CD57 numbers, this is really a positive.
I haven't been bitten by a tick as an adult that I know of - maybe, when I was a child?
Kam, if you were bitten by a tick that had Lyme as a child, you'd have had the symptoms as a child. It's certain that the basic Eliza test being negative might not have been an accurate conclusion. This is why so many people who have Lyme are misdiagnosed. But, hey, that's what is mandated as the official test with mainstream medicine.
When you say the doctor says 'it's a positive', what exactly do you mean? I went to a Lyme 'specialist' and he was so clueless I had to tell him about sending my blood to Igenex. He had never even heard of them.
Are you saying that the tick remains as the only vector for Lyme disease? Hmmm interesting. Peace.
Rafael,
I'm not saying the tick is the only vector. From what I've read, there are now many vectors, such as mosquitos and other insects that can contaminate your blood, but I know for sure ticks carry it.
Many people don't even remember being bitten by a tick and only 50% get the bulls eye rash, so it's really a very stealth situation. You can get immediate reaction or nothing for up to a year.
I guess there are so many mycoplasma related diseases which begin with symptoms similar to Lyme, that unless someone is tested by labs other than using the basic tests which are often innacurate, they probably won't know just what the heck it is.
Biten by tick on Honeymoon at 20 years old in Kentucky. High fever and a very sore throat 1-2 weeks after.
Tested for lyme at 34 negative.
Then biten by spider , I forgot the name but I think it is the Brown Recluse ( violin on back ) will look it up again . I was appr 42 years old recieved a large purple bruise in bullseye around bite low fever , I captured spider and was told by Detroit Recieving (I went there for expert Infectious Disease institute that ajoins it) that we do not have them in Detroit and then a few years later I read of a new found identification of them in the area.
Also tested positive for Toxoplasmosis
yep, brown recluse now said to carry lyme also,
Venom toxicity - the brown recluse venom can cause significant cutaneous injury with tissue loss and necrosis. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Habitat - brown recluse is found in the United States from the east to the west coast, with predominance in the south. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spider Identification - an adult spider is 1/4 to 3/4 inch in body - a dark violin shape is located on the top of the leg attachment region with the neck of the violin pointing backward toward the abdomen. Unlike most spiders that have 8 eyes, the brown recluse has 6 eyes arranged in pairs - one pair in front and a pair on either side.
however the bulleye bruise in indicative of Rickessia distinquishable from the red bullseye of lyme, IMHO.
Kammy , My sons family , the babies received multiply bites despite in best efforts to rid his house of these pests, he lived near the Oil refinery I worked at, we where warned of them at work. They lived in the Scaffolding poles near the furnace so they could make permanent residence in Cold Michigan winters.
Babies are ofter victims, they seemed drawn to the diaper area. My poor Grandchildren ended up in the hospital over these nasty spiders...mrsa too.
Biten by tick on Honeymoon at 20 years old in Kentucky. High fever and a very sore throat 1-2 weeks after.
Tested for lyme at 34 negative.
Then biten by spider , I forgot the name but I think it is the Brown Recluse ( violin on back ) will look it up again . I was appr 42 years old recieved a large purple bruise in bullseye around bite low fever , I captured spider and was told by Detroit Recieving (I went there for expert Infectious Disease institute that ajoins it) that we do not have them in Detroit and then a few years later I read of a new found identification of them in the area.
Also tested positive for Toxoplasmosis
yep, brown recluse now said to carry lyme also,
Venom toxicity - the brown recluse venom can cause significant cutaneous injury with tissue loss and necrosis. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Habitat - brown recluse is found in the United States from the east to the west coast, with predominance in the south. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spider Identification - an adult spider is 1/4 to 3/4 inch in body - a dark violin shape is located on the top of the leg attachment region with the neck of the violin pointing backward toward the abdomen. Unlike most spiders that have 8 eyes, the brown recluse has 6 eyes arranged in pairs - one pair in front and a pair on either side.
however the bulleye bruise in indicative of Rickessia distinquishable from the red bullseye of lyme, IMHO.
I was first infected from the lone star tick, identifiable by the white dot on it's nasty little back. That tick gives a solid large oval rash, which I had on my thigh front. I thought it was from my laptop
The lone star and deer ticks are both the same. One gives you Erlichiosis and the other Lyme (they are probably just different names for the same thing. I also found out in going back over my records that I PROBABLY have toxoplasmosis as well. Doc never went over test results and it was indicated I should have been tested again. That was 5 years ago.
My guess is that we were choice biting targets because the spider etc. was looking for another host to complete the life-cycle (Parasite Rex, Carl Zimmer).
I just came across this. You all know the players.
"......a paper in the American Journal of Clinical Dermatology reporting that 79 out of 80 Morgellons patients they studied also were infected with Borrelia burgdorferi, the tick-borne bacteria that cause Lyme disease...."
Doesn't this strike a major chord with anyone???
What if the Lyme organism mated with the agrobacteria organism and named their baby from hell, Morgellons?
Posted by rafael25 on Dec 6, 2011, 7:48am
Oh my friends, so sorry to hear about the spiders, the ticks, the mrsa, the toxoplasmosis, and all that. Pain in my heart. My heart bleeds with your hearts.
Biten by tick on Honeymoon at 20 years old in Kentucky. High fever and a very sore throat 1-2 weeks after.
Tested for lyme at 34 negative.
Then biten by spider , I forgot the name but I think it is the Brown Recluse ( violin on back ) will look it up again . I was appr 42 years old recieved a large purple bruise in bullseye around bite low fever , I captured spider and was told by Detroit Recieving (I went there for expert Infectious Disease institute that ajoins it) that we do not have them in Detroit and then a few years later I read of a new found identification of them in the area.
Also tested positive for Toxoplasmosis
yep, brown recluse now said to carry lyme also,
Venom toxicity - the brown recluse venom can cause significant cutaneous injury with tissue loss and necrosis. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Habitat - brown recluse is found in the United States from the east to the west coast, with predominance in the south. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Spider Identification - an adult spider is 1/4 to 3/4 inch in body - a dark violin shape is located on the top of the leg attachment region with the neck of the violin pointing backward toward the abdomen. Unlike most spiders that have 8 eyes, the brown recluse has 6 eyes arranged in pairs - one pair in front and a pair on either side.
however the bulleye bruise in indicative of Rickessia distinquishable from the red bullseye of lyme, IMHO.
Have you ever gone back to be tested for Lyme since then? Did you have any symptoms after the flu/fever for those 20 years, like lethargy, joint pain, etc. ?
Those recluse spiders are some nasty little critters. Really fugly, and the bite site can be horrendous!
Posted by rafael25 on Dec 7, 2011, 2:14pm
Live+Jesus!
A Crown of Joy, for all of those who follow the Just Judge.
Hmmm she should visit a Doctor of Traditional Chinese Medicine. She has so much energy inside of her that it is bursting through her pores. Calling it toxins is an approach, but it might have something to do with her intestines and her diet. Maybe is birth control pills or something else. The skin is an organ. Her condition should not go untreated, don't you think?
Man they screwed me up again, always shutting down my replys when I spell check them so here I go again but no spell check, you guys have to bear with me.
So many things have been changed from real to artificial or hybridized in this last century. They used Agrobacterium for many many years on plants before it was realized that it changed out human genes too. A new study showed that the food we eat changes our D.N.A. and they have changed our food. Humans have a polymer gene PARP , rats have a polymer gene , every fleshly thing is it's own type of polymer with it's own quality. When you mix two polymers , you get a new type , a co-polymer with it's own new type of quality. Vinegar production was capatlized in Germany and also Monsanto around 1910 -1920 somehwere in there. Vinegar itself if small changes are made to it , it can play a part in all this . So many changes but one thing for certain is that History has always repeated itself and the quest for power will certainly continued and has. So when they made us happy with new polyester clothes and our mothers happy with new vinyl floors, where they making the kindom rulers happy and their own egos..... with new type animals and organisms, new synthetics, new dna sequences.
Did they quest for power and control ever stop. No , it continued in a very big way but it was rarely seen, in the world of the small. We see it now as man goes to and fro and knowledge increases. We are strapped into our chairs... firing up our image equiptment and enlarging those boils and their contents, we see... said the blind man.
So what is human now, dunno What have they mixed Agrobactium with, lots! We are our food. A new study proved this , food changes our D.N.A.
What has also feed on our crops, mold, fungi, worms, lots!!! What has changed, lots!!! but one thing that has not changed is.......... The thirst or the fear of the others that also thirst for power and control,
So in my opinion, we are probably seeing an on going quest for control of the human, not just his enviroment. It began with eye of neut and was of recent..... lyme disease , babesia, polmers, D.N.A. sequencing inserts.
Mixes in mixes of populations that are somewhat pure and mixed D.N.A, some changes taking some not but yes lyme has quiet a history but it is a mix I think Russel Tice formerly of the N.S.A. , his wiki
had a statement that was removerd something akin to, they mixed lyme with animal babesia and released it to the general public under the Ford Administration.
but time moves quickly as knowledge increases and conductive polymers that can upon skin contact begin to submerge and grow.... PEDOT was given with an alginate accredited to U.of M to cause a bouqet style branching of an artificial nervous system The patent Human Brain Machine that our government has certain rights to, in which grows an artificial nervous system that can be tapped causing " artificial state of conciousness never before seen in man."
New things as mixes but nothing new at all Power , control and greed driven. This does not change but only on a individual level it seems to me. Individuals can and do change to love but how many nations can we attribute the word love to? So then we lose , we all rush to capitalize on new technologies that can and will control the human biological brain if not by devine guidance or devine interaction stop the progress that rapidly slilently continues, in the world of the small , the world that awakens us when sunlight kisses our skin or scents that arouse us . Bio-natural world has free templates for molecular designers, they used them all to learn from and probably more than we will ever know in this world has been changed.
Anyone who realizes that Hilters are a dime a dozen through out history is called paranoid . Now that they got that one over on us to begin with makes me question how advanced the mind control really is/
WOW you learn that all the way through school but the next generation under yours seems completly ignorant to it or maybe they are to bust with their electronic toys? Now something is changing, OCCUPY awakening but is this one masterminded and by who
Will Artificial Intelligence be elected to rule us all since it is not of a egotistical race?
Karen my sister who passed away was speaking here , she copied this in it's entirety because she knew it might dissappear.. thanks Karen , I am reposting it for safety,
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Russ Tice Russell D. Tice (b. 1961) is a former intelligence analyst for the U.S. Air Force, Office of Naval Intelligence, Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) and National Security Agency (NSA). During his nearly 20 year career with various United States government agencies, he conducted intelligence missions related to the Kosovo War, Afghanistan, the USS Cole bombing in Yemen, and Operation Iraqi Freedom. In December, 2005, Tice helped spark a national controversy over claims that the NSA and the DIA were engaged in unlawful and unconstitutional wiretaps on American citizens. He later admitted that he was one of the sources that were used in the New York Times' reporting on the wiretap activity in December 2005.
Tice began to receive national attention as a whistleblower in May, 2005, after speaking publicly about alleged retaliation by government officials for reporting his suspicions that a DIA colleague might be a Chinese spy, and about the need for legislation to protect national security agency whistleblowers.
Education Tice graduated from the University of Maryland in 1985.
Alleged reprisals In early 2001, Tice first reported his suspicions about a young woman he worked with at the DIA whom he believed to be a Chinese spy. He claimed that the woman voiced sympathies for China, traveled extensively abroad and displayed affluence beyond her means. Tice said he "basically got blown off by the counterintelligence office at D.I.A.", but he continued to push the issue until he was transferred to the NSA in 2002.
In April 2003, while Tice was still working at the NSA, an FBI investigation into a Chinese double agent in Los Angeles named Katrina Leung had become international news. She had been receiving classified information from two FBI agents. These revelations of Chinese spying prompted Tice to raise his concerns again.
In a 'secure' e-mail message to the DIA counterintelligence office, he demanded to know what had happened as a result of the 2001 report he had filed outlining his suspicions about his former co-worker (not to be confused with Leung.) "At the time, I sent an e-mail to Mr. James (the DIA official handling his complaint) questioning the competence of counterintelligence at FBI," Tice wrote to the Inspector General of the Pentagon's Civil Reprisal Investigation unit, which investigated his 2003 complaint. In the e-mail, he mentioned that he suspected that he was the subject of electronic monitoring.
In April, 2003, shortly after the e-mail message, Tice was ordered to undertake a psychological evaluation, which he believed was retaliatory. The Defense Department psychologist concluded that Tice suffered from psychotic paranoia. "He did this even though he admitted that I did not show any of the normal indications of someone suffering from paranoia," Tice said in a statement to the Inspector General.
Two months later, in June, 2003, the NSA suspended his security clearances and ordered him to tasks such as maintaining the agency's vehicles, pumping gas, and driving officials around. By April of 2005, after 14 months of paid leave, Tice was relegated to unloading furniture at the NSA's warehouses and cleaning them.
Whistleblower Tice was terminated by the NSA in May, 2005, just days after publicly urging Congress to pass stronger protections for federal intelligence agency whistleblowers facing retaliation. In September, 2005, the inspector general issued an unclassified report that found "no evidence" to support Tice's claims.
In December, 2005, Tice alleged the NSA and the DIA were engaged in unlawful and unconstitutional conduct against the American people, and helped spark a national controversy. Tice stated that the activities involved the Director of the NSA, the Deputies Chief of Staff for Air and Space Operations, and the U.S. Secretary of Defense, and were conducted via very highly sensitive intelligence programs and operations known as Special Access Programs (SAP), more commonly referred to as 'black world' programs, or 'black ops'. Tice was a technical intelligence specialist dealing with SAP programs and operations at both NSA and DIA.
On December 16, the New York Times revealed that the NSA was engaged in a clandestine eavesdropping program that bypassed the secret Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) court. Media reports on January 10, 2006, indicated Tice was a source of the Times leak, which revealed that, under the direction of the White House and without requisite court orders, the NSA has been intercepting international communications to and from points within the US.
But while Tice was a source for the Times story, he was not himself part of the classified NSA program; instead, he took part in space systems communications, non-communications signals (such as radar emissions), electronic warfare, satellite control, telemetry, sensors, and special capability systems.
In a letter dated December 18, 2005, to the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, and to Senator Pat Roberts, Chairman of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence, he said he was prepared to testify about the SAP programs, under the provisions of the Intelligence Community Whistleblower Protection Act. It is not known, however, what the testimony would specifically involve.
It has been assumed that the problem concerned the electronic surveillance of Americans, but in an interview published 13 January 2006 on the reasononline web site, Tice said "there's no way the programs I want to talk to Congress about should be public ever, unless maybe in 200 years they want to declassify them. You should never learn about it; no one at the Times should ever learn about these things. But that same mechanism that allows you to have a program like this at an extremely high, sensitive classification level could also be used to mask illegality, like spying on Americans." http://www.reason.com/hod/js011306b.shtml
It has been speculated that at least one of the programs Tice was referring too is a program involving a coverup of accidental bioweapons releases which occurred in the late 40s and early 50s. Arvin Michaels of the National Coalition for Truth in Government (NCTG) has stated
"One aspect of what Mr. Tice is referring too are programs initiated in the 1970s during the Ford administration involving the CDC's Epidemic Intelligence Service in conjunction with the defense intelligence agency and which seek to coverup and obscure from the American public a disastrous outbreak of tick-borne disabling diseases which were modified in laboratories in the early 1950's and tested in nature at various sites. These infections largely involve 'cocktails' of modified lyme disease spirochetes and altered animal babesias. They are disabling and lead to subacute chronic brain infection. Part of the program is convincing people who have these conditions that they actually are afflicted with chronic fatigue syndrome or fibromyalgia. This program involves leading scientists affiliated with the CDC, the Infectious Disease Society of America, and shockingly enough for people who are familiar with the controversies surrounding lyme disease, scientists who pose as antiestablishment figures."
In a press release issued by the National Security Whistleblowers Coalition on December 22, 2005, Tice explained the public aspect of his charges, stating that:
"As a Signals Intelligence (SIGINT) officer it is continually drilled into us that the very first law chiseled in the SIGINT equivalent of the Ten Commandments (USSID-18) is that Thou shall not spy on American persons without a court order from FISA. This law is continually drilled into each NSA intelligence officer throughout his or her career. The very people that lead the National Security Agency have violated this holy edict of SIGINT." On December 23, 2005, the Austin American-Statesman, reported Tice's allegations that spying on Americans may involve a massive computer system known as ECHELON, which is able to search and filter hundreds of thousands of phone calls and e-mails in a matter of seconds.
On January 3, 2006, Tice appeared on the national radio/TV show Democracy Now and said he wants to testify before Congress. Tice said "I'm involved with some certain aspects of the intelligence community, which are very closely held, and I believe I have seen some things that are illegal."
On January 5, 2006, the Washington Times reported that Tice wants to testify before Congress about electronic intelligence programs that he asserts were carried out illegally by the NSA and DIA. "I intend to report to Congress probable unlawful and unconstitutional acts conducted while I was an intelligence officer with the National Security Agency and with the Defense Intelligence Agency," Tice stated in letters, dated December 16, 2005 and disclosed by the Times.
In a letter dated January 10, 2006, Renee Seymour, Director of the NSA Special Access Programs Central Office, warned Tice that members of neither the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence, nor of the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence had clearance to receive the classified information about the SAP's that Tice was prepared to provide. An article by Chris Strohm in Government Executive says that some Congressional staffers believe that Tice "comes with baggage".
In reaction to Tice's claims, Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly, two prominent figures in conservative media, launched an offensive against his credibility. On his Fox News broadcast of January 11, 2006, O'Reilly said that Tice should be jailed for his whistleblowing activity. But Tice told ABC News that "As far as I'm concerned, as long as I don't say anything that's classified, I'm not worried... We need to clean up the intelligence community. We've had abuses, and they need to be addressed."
On February 14, 2006, UPI reports Tice testified to the House Government Reform Subcommittee on National Security, Emerging Threats and International Relations that the Special Access Program might have violated millions of Americans' Constitutional rights, but that neither the committee members nor the NSA inspector general had clearance to review the program.
On May 12, 2006, thinkprogress.org reported a story by CongressDaily in which Tice was said to be planning an appearance the next week before the Senate Armed Service Committee, when further revelations would be made on "a different angle" of the NSA's surveillance program.[1] Ultimately this did not occur and is still unclear as to why.
On July 26, 2006, he was subpoenaed to appear before a federal grand jury regarding violations of federal law. He reportedly said gThis latest action by the government is designed only for one purpose: to ensure that people who witness criminal action being committed by the government are intimidated into remaining silent.h.[2]
On January 08, 2008 a Whistleblower named Dave Larson[3] made significant disclosures to the Dept. of Defense Office of the Inspector General and to Senate members substantiating allegations made by Tice and which detailed unlawful criminal acts committed under Special Access Program (SAP) provisions. This matter remains pending and current with the Dept. of Defense Inspector General as case #103586.
References
ª NSA Whistleblower To Expose More Unlawful Activity: ePeoplecAre Going To Be Shockedf May 12, 2006. ª NSA WHISTLEBLOWER IS SUBPOENAED TO TESTIFY BEFORE FEDERAL GRAND JURY July 28, 2006 ª http://www.larsonmedia.net/biomed.htm Larson Media "Special Access" External links FederalTimes.com - 'Whistleblower to be fired, watchdogs say', Stephen Losey, Federal Times (May 9, 2005) PulseJournal.com - 'NSA fires whistleblower', Rebecca Carr, Cox News Service (May 5, 2005) Democracy Now - transcript/video/MP3 of interview with Tice conducted by Amy Goodman about NSA Spying (January 3, 2006) WashTimes.com - 'NSA whistleblower asks to testify', Bill Gertz, Washington Times, (January 5, 2006) ABC News - 'NSA Whistleblower Alleges Illegal Spying', Brian Ross, ABC News, (January 10, 2006) UPI - 'Whistleblower says NSA violations bigger', UPI, (February 15, 2006) In These Times - 'NSA Thwarts Whistleblower', Leah A Nelson, In These Times, (May 15, 2006) Karen
Sky and Thelma (although I can't find your post now), thank you for your very gracious and sweet posts. This is just one of many exhibitions proving this forum is held in the highest of esteem.
Lil sis,
That was powerful! So, it's true that not only was Lyme disease man-made most likely at Plum Island (which has been established long ago), but that certain or possibly all of the released ticks were engineered as spy capable agents on the public. Now I want to continue my research on Lyme more than ever. Although "Lyme" and co-infections were reported in the 1800's, I'm thinking the new and improved were reseased from all different labs around the country, and Connecticut was the first to report it in 1975. From what I understand, the co-infections are all contained within the same insect.
So, basically, we don't know just how they manipulated the spirochete. Or how it has also been morphed through agrobacterium, etc. as well. So now there are definitely cousins. Not all kissing cousins.
I'm going to change the wording of my initial post to reflect that just because someone might have been tested for Lyme and got a negative result doesn't mean they don't have it. I don't consider the usual Elisa and or Western Blot sufficient in determining whether or not someone is infected. Even the NIH states there could be false negatives (which they of course quickly balance out with stating there could be false positives (what a crock. If you have the antibodies, you have it)). I'll include links in initial post.
Unfortunately, I can't add the option to click if you have been tested negative but still have symptoms.
I'm not suggesting this is the ONLY connection to Morgellons and how we could have contacted it....just part of it. I don't think we all have the same Morgellons symptoms, either. Just trying to help put some pieces to the puzzle together.
Did you see the article on the spirochaetes found in "hairy foot disease" in Cattle?
Makes me think of that foot and mouth and the spiral forms. I don't know if they are calling this Lymes in cattle, but. gee.
If you want to do an article for the webpage on this, we would be more than happy to help you. I have the link to the cattle one. I do think the spirochaete, like the dicty, and the cyano work together, so one could have Alz lymes, morgellons.
Then I read where they were giving Lymes Vaccines to Children who don't even have Lymes. So sickening.
I think an article or videos and images, between you and Lil sis, and images comparable to and with Morgellons would rock the ship.
Let us know if you are interested and will get you those other articles. This means this hoof and mouth, glanders, and the lymes, alz lymes, and. I also found from Lil sissy's links a pathologist who was taking pictures of autopsies on deeper level.
they are old photos, but, has found lymes in alzheimer's brains. the bb.
Even Altos Alzheimer showed images of those years ago.
Thank you for hanging in here with us. You are so appreciated.
I think it's all over my head (truly); I'm a person who just happens to see some connections without having the education to know why but I would love the opportunity to contribute, if possible. I'll give it a try, for sure!
Has anyone heard whether or not Willy Burgdorfer is still alive and has he opened up about the Lyme spirochete since his interview on "under our skin"?
"...Soon after we turned-off the camera and began packing up our gear, Dr. Burgdorfer told us with a sly smile, “I didn’t tell you everything.”..."
Well, I don't know how old he is now, but I tried googling how to contact him and they kept wanting me to contact Willy Nelson
After listening to an interview in either his later stages of age or inebriation, I must say, I'd rather listen to the red headed stranger any ol' day (Nelson). Garble, garble, garble, swig. (kinda like when I post some times LOLOLOL)
I'm also rather ticked off (no pun intended) that he left the interview on Under My Skin with that cliff hanger. How mean, cruel and unfair! What do you expect from someone who worked for the NIH???
A zoonotic bacteria, B. miyamotoi can be transferred to humans through the deer tick (Ixodes scapularis), the same tick species that spreads B. burgdorferi, the causative agent of Lyme Disease. Although infection can cause some similar symptoms, acute Lyme disease typically presents with flu-like symptoms while B. miyamotoi infection produces symptoms of relapsing fever and does not cause the bull's eye shaped rash that characterizes Lyme disease.[2] [3]
So I ask ya, please someone tell me the difference between a bacteria that causes flu-like symptoms and then relapsing symptoms, and doesn't always present the bulls eye rash, and the Japanese version that causes relapsing FEVER (hmmm doesn't the flu manifest in a fever?) which is also a symptom of borrellia infection?
Do they really think we are THAT stupid?
It's said to be transmitted by the same tick as BB....but we never hear of it? Who discovered it?
Okay found it. So some dude from YALE not even Japanese discovered it. IN COLLABORATION WITH RUSSIAN SCIENTISTS. ****
Okay, it takes me a while, sometimes to put two and two together. In this case, I'm astounded that just about an hour ago, I put this on my word document to collect material for the Lyme/Morgellons connection:
Elimination of Lyme Disease Spirochetes from Ticks Feeding on Domestic Ruminants▿ Dania Richter* and Franz-Rainer Matuschka + Author Affiliations Abt. Parasitologie, Institut für Pathologie, Charité Universitätsmedizin Berlin, Malteserstraße 74-100, 12249 Berlin, Germany
Next Section ABSTRACT To determine whether and which spirochetes are cleared from Ixodes ricinus ticks during feeding on ruminants, ticks were removed from goats and cattle grazing on tick-infested pastures. Although about a quarter of ticks questing on the pasture were infected by spirochetes, no molted ticks that had previously engorged to repletion on ruminants harbored Lyme disease spirochetes. Borrelia miyamotoi spirochetes, however, appear not to be eliminated. Thus, the more subadult ticks are diverted from reservoir-competent hosts to zooprophylactic ruminants, the smaller the risk of infection by Lyme disease spirochetes is.
I didn't even notice "B. miyamotoi" !!!!!
And this study from Germany? Not Yale?
Please don't tell me this was created in order to create the need for another VACCINATION. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt and think altruism.
There's no place like home...... There's no place like home..... There's no place like home.....
So, please someone put this together for me? I'm feeling something sinister on top of what already is sinister.
Now there are TWO yes TWO Borrelia in the same tick, one of which we never even HEARD of until very recently. And, correct me if I'm wrong here: One spirochete doesn't survive the bloodfest while the other does.
So, if the B.burgdorferi spirochete doesn't survive, then how the hell does it transmit the disease to humans?????
"... Although about a quarter of ticks questing on the pasture were infected by spirochetes, no molted ticks that had previously engorged to repletion on ruminants harbored Lyme disease spirochetes...."
Ticks MOLT?? did the tick that bit me MOLT on me?? I feel so.....DIRTY.
"....In biology, moulting or molting[1] (both pronounced /ˈmoʊltɪŋ/), also known as sloughing, shedding, or for some species, ecdysis, is the manner in which an animal routinely casts off a part of its body (often but not always an outer layer or covering), either at specific times of year, or at specific points in its life cycle...."
YES, I have a round about way to doing my research
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